Your Workers Aren't Lazy - They're Depleted: Jennifer Martinez on Rapid Restoration for Industrial Athletes

The Hidden Cost Of Depletion

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It's all very expensive. Do you know that it's a hundred billion dollar a year problem in an industry?

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Easy.

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Yeah. And it's under-reported. It's under-reported and it's a hundred billion dollar a year problem. What does that tell you? It gets labeled other things. Oh, I have a headache. Let me get some Tylenol. Oh, I'm tired. Let me grab an energy drink. And what happens in that cycle is you're not deficient in energy drink. You're not deficient in Tylenol. You're deficient in sodium. You're deficient in potassium. You're deficient in electrolytes. You're deficient in the thing that balances everything out.

Meet Jennifer And The Mission

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What is going on, LM family, back again? And I just got to warn you, you better be ready for some energy because today's guest, she's bringing the energy. Not just on the call, she is making a living and an impact on the industry, helping leaders restore what depletion steals. And we're going to dig into that. She's got a background in sports medicine, and she's bringing those performance principles to industrial athletes. I love that. And we're going to figure out exactly what an industrial athlete is. She's a leader in the restoration movement. She is the founder of JMAR Solutions. Her name is Jennifer Martinez. And I'm like for real, for real, I apologize if we melt the internet because of our combined energy. I'm blaming it on her, but I'm also going to apologize. We're going to get to know Miss Jennifer here. And if this is your first time here, you're listening to the Learnins and Missteps podcast, where you get a first-hand look at how amazing human beings, just like you, are sharing their gifts and talents to leave this world better than they found it. I'm Jesse, your selfish servant, and we are about to get to know Miss Jennifer Martinez. Miss Jennifer, how are you?

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There is nothing selfish about you. What is that? Oh my goodness, come on now. You can't do a podcast and all the things that you have to do. People have no idea, idea how difficult it is to podcast all of the things. And so it's very servant. It's very servant-led, not selfish at all. Because you know what? You also have to like, like right now, you're giving me a platform so I can speak straight into the people. That's not selfish. And I love your spirit. And thank you so much for having me on because I've been looking forward to this. You have no idea. I've been talking about it for weeks since we we met on the I knew who you were, but I and I've been meaning to reach out to you, but it was like, you know how life happens. You get so caught up in business and in this meeting and that meeting. And I'm like, one of these days I am going to connect with him. And that was happened on the old dogs. Yes. Wasn't even expecting. I'm on my treadmill and I'm just going along and I hear this guy, and I'm like, that's Jesse. I this is a God thing.

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Yeah, totally, totally. And it's interesting, like you're in the DFW area, correct? Yeah. And I'm there all the time.

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Yeah, we're gonna get together. We have to get together. We have to like go my gosh, could you imagine the room that we walk into? I mean, with our special skills, our special skill. I see that you have the same kind of writing I do in the back of you. Yes. If you were to see my board, it is is worse. I want I write like a toddler.

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Yeah. Hey, it's right. Like it's the mission. Does the message get across? Does it serve and support the path of others? If it does, then I'm not worried about spelling. I ain't worried about penmanship. I just want to serve and contribute to people's paths. And so far it's worked pretty good.

Stop Waiting For Perfect

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But I'd bring that up, Jesse. Go ahead. No, I think that's great that you bring that up because so many people are so fearful of not being good enough. And I I I I feel you at my core with that. I even did a post about it to help our friend that was afraid to post. Remember? Yes. And it was very vulnerable because I went to private school and everybody around me was like brilliant. My best friend was like the what is it? The soup, what is it when you're the smartest person in the class? See, there you go. And I was like in class. And I was the special person. I went to special courses when I was growing up because I dyslexia, like spelling. I still can't spell. It's so frustrating. Yeah. I memorize everything and then I forget because now I'm in now I'm 50.

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Yeah. I'm run, I'm right behind you, sister. So I let's let's go there. And I I love because I got to see that post of you put it out there to like give some momentum, some wind under other under people's wings. Because it is kind of scary, right? We get into this thing, you're out there, you're active and visible on social media, you're you founded a business, and just based on energy, there's no doubt this isn't the first thing that you've taken on in your life. And so for the listener out there that is like hesitant, has been questioned and questioning and overthinking, starting sharing a thought or an idea, what what advice or motivation do you have for them?

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I have messed up so many times, and I've done presentations and done the worst presentations ever and beat myself up about it, but I connected with the right people at that presentation. So it made it okay. You've said it before, I've heard you say it before, repetition. Like you're gonna mess up. So just go. And it's okay because people actually can relate to that. I can't relate to perfect because I'm because I'm far from it. That's why I need Jesus. Like, right? Yes, and people are like, oh, she's a decent person. And I'm like, no, I make people sport so they don't hurt. Like I have both sides, right? You know, and and so yeah, you just gotta do it, man. You gotta do it, and you gotta listen. You've even I've I even heard you say, I think Saturday, I watched your Saturday. I'm gonna catch one of those live, by the way. I because I'm when I'm watching it, like the replay, I'm like, I'm like, that's dumb. They can't see, they can't respond. So then I'm like, delete, delete, delete, delete. It frustrates me. It's never gonna be perfect. And if it's a message that you have, it's for you to give and you have to just do it. My first posts were horrible. They're still bad. I like I still mess up on them, I still overwork them. I still, but it's like, you know, sometimes I just hit send and I'm like, it is what it is. Like some of the oh, some of my most controversial posts, what I know is true, have gone viral. It's like, you know what I'm saying? I got attacked, but I knew what the attack was from somebody who didn't understand because they were indoctrinated. So when you get attacked like that, you come back with something positive. And I did it every time. I was like, thank you for your thoughts. Right. You know, I all these names that I was called, like dangerous and all these things. And I'm like, and there were other words that were a lot worse. Oh and I was like, this is this is somebody that's in pain. I always try and take the other person's perspective and go, they don't have a problem with me. There's something going on with them. Have you ever been on a business call and been attacked before? And just in that moment, you just you're like, this is not a good alignment, but I'm going to show, I'm gonna be who I am. Yep, I'm an honorable person, regardless of that person being an honorable person. And so you have to control your emotions, just be like, no, that person's in pain. We got off a call one time that was so bad. It was so bad. He had no idea who he was talking to. He didn't know he was talking to the owner of the company, he had no idea that I was the decision maker and he was demeaning me. My team was like, This guy's an a-hole, you know, and I was like, No, we're gonna, we're gonna pray for him. And one of the other person on the call called me, you know, later and said, That guy, da-da-da. And I go, Well, we just got done praying for him because that person's in a lot of pain. And I just it it grieves my heart that he would treat somebody that way. Because I don't care if you're the owner of the company or if you're the one cleaning the toilets, because I do both.

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Right, right.

Handling Pushback Without Losing Yourself

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The only thing that God ever asks of us is to love one another. Yep. And love doesn't mean that everything's perfect, right? Love is sacrifice, and so when someone's lashing out to control your emotions, to say, wow, this person is really in pain and they're frustrated and all these things, and it's not me. And so it's gonna happen, you're gonna get attacked, you're gonna mess up, and it's gonna be okay because guess what? You're moving forward. Every failure I've was a was a was a forward moment. Every one, and I learned every time, and I got it better, and I my message got better. Jesse, last year was a really tough year for me and my company. Okay, it was well, 2025 was my year to thrive. I got like words for like for like every year, you know? And it started off really, really good, and then there were so many delays on all these projects, and then there was roadblocks, and then there were they were unrighteous too. It wasn't right. And so then all through the year, I'm believing God for you know, things to happen and they're not happening. And I'm like, what am I doing wrong? What am I doing wrong? You take on more things and you're working 12 hour days and you're trying to make it right, and you're trying to fix things, and you're like, we're not gonna survive if I don't get these things done. And I was like, I finally in November said, I I I've never said this word in my life. I want to quit. I literally had a conversation with God, and my conversations with God are like my kids, like with my kids or with my friends, I'm like, God, I can't do this anymore. And he said, You're right, you can't, but I can. Oh, it flipped this. It flipped it because I was trying to do everything on my part. I was trying to build something, and his every rejection was his protection. Yep. And every you know, every roadblock was was was not the right time. And if I had gotten some of those projects that I was wanting to get at that time, it would have failed, and it would have failed at a level that was not good.

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That you couldn't come back. Yeah, yeah.

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Yes.

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No, I think there's you you use the word quit. What I'm hearing is you needed to surrender because I've been there. I need to surrender instead of manipulating and cajoling and twisting and pushing and pulling and wrestling with the conditions that life is throwing at me. I need to surrender to them and and like get out of the way.

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Yeah, and that's literally what I did. Wow. And then everything started to flow. The day after Christmas, literally everything started to flow. And I changed the name of my company. God brought that to me, and all of a sudden, word. I literally let everything go. I walked away and went and got in the word of God, which is the number one book for business. I've gotten every business strategy from the Holy Spirit and God's word. Wow. It is the number one, but I've read you know a lot of books, it just takes me so long. But when I'm in God's word and the things that I write down, I'm like, this who is this? I that was a complete sentence, and that actually sounds good. Like I oh, I know it's God. Yeah, I know it's got it. And when I got that download, I was like, I I came in and I told Catherine, I was like, Catherine, don't get mad. Because I mean, I've got her on all these projects, right? And I'm always throwing stuff at her because she just handles everything, she's amazing. And I said, Don't get mad, we're gonna change our branding. And she was like, Oh no, I she had just finished like all of the branding stuff, yeah. And I was like, We're changing it. And she was like, Okay, she just smiled, look at me look at me, she was okay. I was like, God wants us to change it to rapid restoration. And she was like, I love it. Yeah, and I was like, He's the greatest restorer. And I I'm fight battles with with a at a at a whole nother level of indoctrination and programming. And I was trying to fight it using the wrong words, and and once I switched that word, and I would have never, Jesse, that would have never happened if I had done it on my own accord. Yep, yep, you know, I do. Because I was this is the right thing, this is the right thing, and it's like, no, we had changed that, and then everything changed. It was like instead of dehydration, we say depletion, and instead of hydration, we say restoration because it's so misunderstood, and it affects everything you do, everything you do.

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Yes, we're gonna do the LM family member shout out. This goes to Chauncey Turney, took the time to leave a super awesome review on the Google. It says, Lean was a good training. We did some lean training. It's just something unexpected to take back to my personal life and work life. This training with Jesse, expanding my knowledge and horizon of ways of thinking outside of the box and stepping into something new. Chauncey, thank you for taking the time and going out of your way to leave that review. And folks, if you don't already know, that's what I'm about. I'm here to help people do stuff that is valuable at home and at work, on and off the clock. And when you take the time to leave a comment, a review, a share, stars, any and all of the above, it's super, super awesome because it gives me an excuse to highlight you in the future.

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Let me tell you, let me tell you something. Let me ask you something. Come on, come on, what you got? When I say the word dehydration, what's the first thing you think?

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The first thing I think is I shouldn't drink coffee all day.

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Okay, well, that's okay. I'll get to that. I'll this is this is this is good. The most people think I need to drink more water.

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Ah, yes.

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True, true. Every hydration campaign, every heat stress summit, every everything at every job site, there's cases and cases of water. You're not drinking enough water, the blame is put on the person for not drinking enough water. Yep. And I and I'm fighting that narrative because water in especially the water we drink is bottled. Yes. And when you drink bottled water, do what?

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No, go ahead. I'm listening.

When Quitting Turns Into Surrender

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We drink bottled or filtered water, tap water's filtered, got, you know, they filter, they clean it, chemicals like fluoride and chlorine, right? All these things, then we got the plastics that are in, you know, that's a that's a big thing that everyone's talking about now. But I've talked about it like 40 years ago. Right. And I was like, plastic's got the estrogen, you know, these people are just pounding themselves, and they wonder why they, you know, have all these hormonal things. But anyways, that's a whole nother topic. But it's like, when oh, I've got one right here from our hotel. We didn't even use it because it's filtered, it's filtered, and even your best waters are still go through a process, or they're put in here. There is nothing in water that hydrates the body because the body isn't hydrated by H2O, it's hydrated by you by sodium.

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Yep.

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Sodium gets gets the water molecule into the body cell. So people are actually depleting themselves when they drink just this, right?

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Yeah.

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And you mix that with a poor diet. Now, if you've got a fantastic diet and and you're not, you know, you're not exerting yourself. Like I'm a maniac when I work out. We'll have to do a workout together.

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Yeah.

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You know, I I love sweat. I like it dripping off me. I mean, like last night my husband came out in the garage and he was like, oh, and I'm like, yeah, it's awesome. We're working. I love it when it's like flying off and you have to move the equipment because it's so it's gross. But, anyways, I love that, you know? Yeah and it's like an thing for me. And if you're not sweating out water, you're sweating out electrolytes and sodium and all the things, right? That's why your clothes have that film on it and stuff, and we're not putting it back in. So that's why hydration's so misunderstood. We're the only country that that that tells people to drink bottled water and to hydrate.

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I see.

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What do they what do you think they do in other countries?

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I have no idea.

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How they hydrate in other countries? They eat fruit. I met with the guy that was in the because they don't have that, they don't have heat straps problems in other countries. Like we do here. Because we put we're shoving water bottles down people's throat, and then we're drinking coffee. So let's get on the coffee thing. Coffee dehydrates you because not of loss of water, you lose 600 milligrams of sodium every cup of coffee. Okay. What does that do? That's why your brain, sometimes after having coffee, you'll have brain fog because your brain runs on electric or your body runs on electrical currencies, right?

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Yes.

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And so it so the sodium level plummets when you have caffeine. Dude, I I do caffeine. Right. I love caffeine. I would do cocaine if I could, but it's illegal. I've never done drugs, by the way. I'm afraid to do drugs. I'm a wimp. No, as a kid, I was like, I don't want to do that. I'll get, you know, I'll get in trouble. I don't like getting in trouble. Right. So you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm joking, but you know, of course. You gotta be careful because people be like, oh my gosh, she just said she does scope. Right. Imagine this on that. Are you on that?

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Forget about it. I don't have to imagine. I've lived that life. I'm I'm 10 years so oh yeah. And June will be 10 years sober, but I spent a lot of time doing a lot of things to suppress and numb some stuff that I had going on, but I came to terms with it. So yeah, I do not recommend it.

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Yeah, but when you're in that space, there's okay, there's no judgment on that because people, you're doing it to cope. Yeah. That's what I talk about with safety professionals all the time is I go to these safety meetings and I do my spiel, and the guys love me, and I give them I'm a squirter sticker, and we do all we have a lot of fun, and and I bring the energy and I bring the restoration and they feel better and all the things. And we're telling them not to drink right alcohol. We're telling them not to, you know, eat these things, and we're telling them not to, you know, do energy drinks, but they're still doing all that. Why? Not because they were like, I don't want to listen, because they're trying to cope. Yeah, they drink because they want they're trying to cope, and then they they do the energy drinks because they're exhausted. Yep, you know, and they're trying to manage stress, which depletes you very fast, yeah, and it's daily. You got the family stress, you got you know, you go to job sites, exertion for 10 hours a day. I mean, these guys are these guys will literally work themselves to death.

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Yes, you know, I've multiple times, so two times I I guess what we would what is categorized as heat stroke, like passed on the job site from dehydration, from overexertion. Also, I want to add, like, I was hung over, right? I was drinking the night before, went out to where we're in the sun, and passed out. And I woke up a couple hours later in the van, like with AC on, like, what happened? Like, dude, you passed out. It's happened to me twice. Dehydrating all the time. Pushing myself to the point where I was like in poor, poor condition multiple times, like before I got into construction and then in construction, uh, because I didn't understand, right? Like that I was depleted in what I needed to restore. I was just 100 miles out drinking water, drinking water, drinking water, and then bam, I'm making it worse. Right. It would get worse. Plus, you know, those other things in super hyper competitive nature of mine that I would neglect my nutrition.

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And that's they just operate, they get done, they get it done, especially in construction. And they're not gonna that's the thing I talk about all the time is only what the heat does is the heat is not the problem. What the heat does is it exposes the problem that shows up every day.

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Yes.

Hydration Myths And Electrolyte Truths

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That's our mission. And at the core of it, the heat only exposes what shows up every day. Your incidences, your injuries, your hungover headaches, and yep, and things that cause um costly mistakes, and it's all very expensive. Do you know that it's a hundred billion dollar a year problem in the industry?

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Easy, yeah.

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And it's under-reported. It's under-reported and it's a hundred billion dollar a year problem. What does that tell you? It gets labeled other things. Oh, I have a headache, let me get some Tylenol. Oh, I'm tired, let me grab an energy drink. And what happens in that cycle is you're not deficient in energy drink. You're not deficient in Tylenol. You're deficient in sodium, you're deficient in potassium, you're deficient in electrolytes, you're deficient in the thing that balances everything out. And that's why we have mental health problems because you you can't cope because you don't have the minerals help you manage, right?

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Yep.

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And we've got all of these, you know, hype, I call them hyped, like hyped sports drinks and packets that we're handing out like candy. They've got synthetics in them, they've got dyes, they've got all these things that are actually compounding on the problem, but it's just accepted and it's not working. And we keep doing the same thing. And that's what that's why I said that earlier. I was like, I'm controversial, I'm gonna disrupt some things because the system that we have in place for that is broken. It's been broken since the 1980s. If the If it was working, the numbers would be improving. I not going up. And every year we have more deaths, every year. And those are underreported because they get labeled under, oh, we had a heart attack. Oh, we had this. All of that comes back to depletion. Yes. And if you have an ability to restore somebody within 10 minutes or less when they come in hungover like you were, you give your crews access to something that can you don't you can't control the lifestyle. Nobody could have told you what to do. Nobody could have told you stop that, right? Yep. You had to choose that. And that you got the uncontrollables of lifestyle, which most people in construction, not everyone, you got some guys out there that take care of themselves, right? But majority of them, they're so busy, they can't even think straight, you know, because they're exhausted. And so you've got if you can get access to something that can right away restore it without digestion, without anything, that's what our did you get our stuff, by the way? I sent you some stuff. Are you talking about this stuff? Yes. That's what yeah. So we that was our system. That's part of our system. That's just our that's one of the what we call it the R RD bundle. It's like a way to test things out. But, anyways, if you can restore that, when I'm doing, yeah, those are the fast packs. Those are the prototype. We have a manufacturer that that's gonna, they're gonna look so much cooler. And I think they're gonna be actually more like a stick. We just met with them yesterday, and I think we're gonna move forward with this new look. But, anyways, and I think we might change it from fast pack to rapid pack, but we're not still I got a super cool care package.

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Got the rapid restoration drops, I got the fast packs. It came in this super awesome little like safety kit. So it's all about packaging. I got a mini, right? So you I got the hookup over here, sister.

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But yeah, no, you need to because you travel a lot, and I'll tell you how to use it because it's not about flavor, it's about fuel. So we just teach people how to fuel their bodies for the environments they're in. It's so simple, but it's so difficult because people misunderstand it. Yep. And you can't change their lifestyle and you can't change the environment that they're in, like you can find spaces or whatever it is that they're working in, like your AC guys and stuff here in Texas, right? Yeah, oh yeah. We work with an AC company that got uh now for four years, and our the first year he we he took it, brought us on. I was just getting started with this movement, and he was like, This is the first year, first summer, where I didn't have the call-ins because they're sick, because they're because they've been in a hot attic, and everything. I have to pull someone out of an attic. You know what that means, right? Oh, yeah, that's data. I've been there. That's not that's not a place to be. And it happens fast because right now, what do we do? The protocol it across the board is water rest shade. All those delay and nothing restores, it just stops the bleeding and actually can can make the bleeding worse in those conditions if this is what you're doing. Yeah, and you can't take a packet, shove it down someone's throat, they'll they'll gag to death. You can squirt our stuff in their mouth and they'll come right back in about 10 minutes or less. I got countless stories of it. Yeah, and that's what I'm trying to do because that's where my heart is. That's the heart of the mission, is that man or that woman coming home to their family and having the ability to manage the house stuff, the kids, the baseball practices, the and not just crash out because that's relationship. Like it affects everything. My husband's a cop. I knew how to fuel him for the environments that he was in. You got mental stress, you got you got body stress. He's a Mexican, so he sweats a ton, you know, got the vest on and stuff. He hates the heat. It's so funny. But it's like, but I knew how to restore him and you know, and and fuel him for that environment. And so he was able to manage all the kid stuff, and he was a great husband. And I want that for everyone. And that's what that's literally what started my company. And I that's all I had to start it. I was like, I do this for athletes, I've experienced it in my home. Now, how do I branch out? And then you know what J Mar did? That's what they call me because J Lo, my husband said, since Jennifer Lopez, J Lo, you're Jamar. Anyways, so they that's been my nickname for 20 years now. And I I just started reaching out to people. I started reaching out to safety people. I didn't know what I was doing, I had no idea what I was doing. I still don't.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

But I just knew that's interesting. So you saw this opportunity around restoration. Of course, you came from and you said, wait a minute, there's this thing, and then you said, Let me go learn, figure out like it was it was just that curiosity.

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When you're training football players, you've got these coaches and they're they're trying to keep them ready for Friday night, right? Yep. And they're they're walking around with gallon juts. Well, my son was a football player, okay, and I knew that that's why they're having all the cramps, that's why they're having them fall out and everything. By Friday, they have nothing in them because they're so depleted. They're sweat all week long and practices, right? And you're talking like two hours in the heat. We got construction guys that are 10 hours in the heat or in the cold because they're both deplete.

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Yeah.

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That rhyme. I love a good rhyme. And I sometimes I'm like, no, it has to rhyme. And I'm like, no, it doesn't always have to rhyme, Jamar. I'm like, yes, it does. I remember stuff that way, right? Yeah. So I tell this story. We were getting our roof done and it was triple-digit heat. The guys were like taking a break, and I went over to like the foreman guy, and I was like, hey, I've got this stuff I use with my athletes, you know. You know, I told them how to use it and stuff like that. And I said, if they want to use it, I'll give it to y'all. And the next day he came back and he was like, What was that stuff that you gave my guy? He's like, They were chatty Kathy, they functioned better. I said, Oh, I just, you know, give them what they were sweating out. Like I do, it's performance, you know. So I did it for performance, right? For athletes for performance. If they were on the they came out and they had a cramp, I could just squirt it in their mouth, and you know, because what do they want? They want to just get back on the field. Or if I would restore them along the way to like your, you know, your quarterback so they can think better. Because when your sodium levels plummet, you have to be sharp, right? Right, right, right. So they would be able to get better performance. And so I I just was like, man, the industrial world needs this. And then I just started looking up stuff, and I was like, and everything I was reading, I was like, this is a real problem.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Yeah.

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And the water is not gonna fix this. And packets and gator, I don't know if we can say that, but you know, these sports drinks, let me put it that way. There you go. And they're grabbing them because they taste good, right? Yep. So I was like, all you gotta do is just squirt our stuff in there, and then they'll at least make that thing work for them, right? Yeah. And it but I didn't know the battles were gonna be so hard on the sense of people not understanding the difference between ionic, naturally derived, synthetic, and how that works in the body. It's been a journey.

Coping, Caffeine, And Job Site Reality

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Yeah, I'll I mean that one, I applaud you because it's obviously right, common sense. We got to replenish, restore our body for the depletion that happened. It's not just water that comes out of our. And I know I remember there were days when I used to come home, you know, I worked for TD Industries, and so we had these blue denim, long sleeve shirts, and then, you know, my jeans. And I will come home with salt stains, and I was like, hell yeah, I had a good day today. And so that's evidence, right? Visible evidence that there's more than just water coming out of my body. So I'm in sense natural. But what you're doing, this this movement, I'm gonna call it a movement. It's not just a product that you're coming to the industry with, is going to challenge conventional thinking. It's challenging the norm, and that's the friction. It's not the fact that this is a great product that can help people, it's thinking that we have adopted and become accustomed to that you're up against. And so here's a quote, because it the listeners out there, we deal with friction all the time. How do you get your head right so that you can get up again? Because you know it's not it, you got a lot more battles ahead of you. How do you get your head right to go again, to have the same arguments, to have the same friction? What do you do to get prepared and and keep showing up? Because it would be easier for you to say, you know what, never mind. This is too much work.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

Yeah, because we're six years in and I'm still fighting the same battles, same. You know, how I've done it is I can't take credit for it myself, other than just like when you carry a heavy message that changes people's lives in a in a good way, you're gonna get pushback. When the push gets really, really hard like it did for me last year, that means you're right on the top of something. And so you you have to just surrender, like you said, and go, God, where am I missing it? And this this this tension that I'm feeling tells me that I'm really close, but I don't know if I can continue to do this in my own strength because it was wearing me out. Yes, it was wearing me out. Yes, because I mean I have like people that are so much smarter than me, so much smarter than me, you know, telling me I'm a quack and all this stuff, and and I'm like, this stuff's been around for 50 years. Right, it's like this is not new, it you just don't know about it, yes, right? Yes, we're not synthetic, we're natural. Uh-huh. You know, God bent over, picked up dirt, and breathed life into it. He didn't water it. Water is important because it's a carrier, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:03

It's a conduit, it it can transfer, it's the vehicle to transfer other stuff.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

And then we have all this hyped stuff out there that says all these things that it does, but then we're not getting the outcomes. But because they've got big bucks behind them, big bucks. I I fight lobbyists, you have no idea the battles I've had to fight. And I could not have done it without God's help because the Holy Spirit restored me every time. Because I was like, How do I say this different? How do I approach that different? The Holy Spirit's a strategic man. He's so just he knows everything. And we don't, we don't, we don't pull on that enough. We we try and do it on our own strain because especially people like you and me, we're we're we we're just do, we just do, you know, and we need to just sometimes just pause and go, okay, God, how do you like what like we prayed before this? We wanted it to be led and help people. We wanted to make sure that whatever we we were talking about was gonna change someone's life in a great way, right? Yes. We we invited that and we don't invite it enough, and we don't get in God's word enough. And I believe that because I because that's the only thing that sustained me. I, you know, because it's not by my might, because I'm like the worst student. I was like, I I can't remember what I just said five seconds ago. I don't have any training in speaking, and I'm speaking and and messing up, you know, I go too fast, I I don't breathe enough or whatever. You know, it's just you just gotta do and then find your strength. And my strength comes from the Lord. And you know what? The reason why you and I are talking is because our values align. And when that happens, when you have the the right alignments, the assignments take care of themselves, and the world chases assignments too much. I chased alignments, and then I asked for discernment. God, is this a good alignment? And he's had to remove a lot of alignments, and it's been a really painful process because I'm like, oh, I really okay, Lord. And I've I've been burned so many times, and you know, that's just that's just the world. You're gonna have those things happen, and it's just how you deal with them, how you manage them. But you know what? I can manage them because I squirt. Nice, nice. I'm a squirter and I squirt in everything. I have a shirt that says I squirt in everything, it gets a lot of attention at job sites. Oh I think that's like brilliant marketing. Thank you. I came up with it. I came up with it one day when we were talking about something, and I was like, just squirt in this, squirt in that, squirt, because we figured out that a squirt was a serving, you know. And I was like, because I say I'm saying, like, I would just squirt it in their mouth and then they would chase out of fluids. It doesn't taste good, but you'll feel good in about you know 10 minutes. You know, you'll feel awake, you'll you'll be able to function. I had an EHS professional that had our bottle on his desk. He worked for a manufacturing company and they work in high, high heat. And these guys are standing in front of furnaces, and it's it's miserable. Yep. And one of the guys was in full on heat stroke, and he we had just met, and we had just met, and so I sent him, you know, some products just for him to test out and try and stuff. He goes, We had EMS on the way, the guy was full on stroke heat stroke, and he goes, I remembered you. And I went and grabbed that bottle and he said, and I just I just started squirting in his mouth. He goes, I went through a half a bottle gen. He was like, I know I was like, you know what? It's at least I have something. And he said, Not kidding. He was like, he was up and walking around before EMS even got there. Well you know, and he was like, This guy was bad. He's like, This he goes, I was this was not gonna be a good outcome. He was convinced of it. And so when you experience something at that level and you're in that field because you care about people, you don't go into safety because you want all the stress safety gets. Like safety job is the hardest job. I I could never do it.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

It's tough.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

I tell that to them all the time. Yeah, they got people coming from this way, they got people going from this way, they got people coming from this way and this way, and then then they have to have this thing, they're doing this stuff, and then they have to be in the field, and then this happens, and then they have to deal with this, and they have to constant, they're constantly berated from every angle, literally. And then, did you get that paperwork done? It's like, I've been running around that no, it's an impossible job. Yeah, so if you're in it, you care about people, and so yes, we give them a tool. I had one safety lady that she's like, I used to carry around salt packets from McDonald's because she's like, it's at least that, and uh, and that's a horrible salt. Like, it's not even it's like been it's been chemicalized and everything, but it was better than packets, and it and it it was something. She was like, I was trying to find something because it's scary when it starts happening. There was a guy that's on Instagram that one of the I get a lot of guys sharing videos with me, you know, they love the TikToks and all the stuff. And I I have a lot of really, really great relationships with a lot of the the crews and stuff. Yeah. And I got a I got a one a couple years ago. Have you seen the one where the guy's like, if you're not sucking on nuts, then you're gonna be it's hot out here and you need to be sucking on nuts. And I was like, I need to get with the nut guy because I've I can make him squirt and he makes him suck nuts, we're a perfect match.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

That would be an awesome collaboration. And here's I know I get like the the joke, right? I get that, but what's more valuable and really important is it it's going to stick in people's memory.

Restoring Fast When Heat Hits Hard

SPEAKER_03 37:31

And that's the only reason why I do it. And you've already said I tell that to everyone when they try and pull that professional thing. I'm like, listen, the buy-in at the guy's level, if they have that sticker and they're making jokes, I love that because they're thinking different. Yeah. And they're they know they have access to something that they're gonna use. And it's not gonna be about flavor, it's gonna be about wait, I'm feeling low, let me squirt and go. I've got so many things like we've got like if you're if you're hurting, you better be squirting. Yep. If you're not squirting, then you're hurting. Like we got all sorts of stuff. And then, you know, yeah, and so but they're doing it. Yes, they're buy-in.

SPEAKER_02 38:08

Is it changing behavior? Yes or no. If it is, get over yourself. We're trying to save lives out here. You know, you use the the language industrial athletes. Yes. Where did that come from? I love it, but where did that come from? What does it mean?

SPEAKER_03 38:26

Well, I've worked with athletes for 20 years, and I never had to get an athlete. They were coming to me because of the performance because I knew how to fuel them for the environment they were in, because the athletes are the most disciplined people you ever meet. And even they struggled with diet and what they're putting in their bodies and sleep. Because I mean, like when they're zoned in and they're in season, they'll do what they need to. As soon as the season's over, they're getting the pancakes, the pizza that you write, and all those things hurt because you know, because this is the hardest thing to control.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

Oh, yeah. Is what goes in. We want those things and they're good. And I I never tell you couldn't have them. I just said if you want this kind of performance in this season, you need to do these certain things. And we've got athletes that will do that for only a season for a one-hour performance, right? So they can have an edge. But then then, and we're expecting grown men with families and stressors and life and and uh in a hard environment, working environment to do those things.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

It's like, are you kidding me? They're eating out of a roach coach, they're getting 7-Eleven, they're grabbing whatever they can, they're they're going through five or six energy drinks a day. I had one safety guy go, we don't sell those on my my crews don't do that. And I'm like, dude, it's in their truck, just like they don't drink beer when they leave. Okay, whatever. I had a superintendent tell me, he goes, You just told them that those things dehydrate them and they deplete them if you can stay away from them. And then the next breath you're saying, but if you're doing it, make sure you're squirting in your coffee, make sure you're squirting in your energy drink, make sure you're squirting in your beer. And he's like, You just told them it was okay to drink beer. And I was like, No, I didn't. I we're not gonna change their habits. Right, but you know what does change habits when you feel good. Yes, and that's what I did as a trainer. I make people feel good first, and then then I would introduce certain habits and say, now reintroduce that and tell me how you feel. Because if you can affect how someone feels, they'll for they'll remember being teaching.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Yep, yep, you know that.

SPEAKER_03 40:31

I do great. You're able to operate, you don't beat yourself up for what you were doing to your body back then because you've been redeemed of that, right? Yep, it was a process that you went through and it had to start with either God pulling you out of it, it wasn't just like cold target, and you know, unless God's involved.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

It's a progressive experience, and and I'm saying this from converting to my sober life. Now, part of the work that I do is is help leaders and organizations deploy change. Yes, it's the same principle in what you're talking about. We will not change our behavior until two things. One, the pain of staying the same exceeds the pain of change, and or we experience the value of the change. Right? And so they're both hard. They're both very, very difficult because you could tell me all day long, Jesse, you shouldn't do that. I'm gonna say whatever, I'm fine until, right? And so doing a squirt into my coffee, into the energy drink, or whatever, like that's not a heavy lift. But if I feel better, what that means is I've experienced the value. And then I'm gonna be like, oh, wait a minute, I like that value. I want to do more of it. Can I now maybe I need to, maybe I don't need the energy drinks anymore because I'm feeling better with the squirt. It's the same thing with with all things, right? All my exes will tell you that I don't like to change. Because guess what? I don't.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Nobody does.

Industrial Athletes And Behavior Change

SPEAKER_02 42:04

But when the value, when once I experience the value of doing things, I'll give you a perfect example. And this is a shout out to my super awesome assistant Erin. I was, you know, I could handle everything. I'm doing all the things, and da-da-da-da-da-da. Gotta got me an assistant, and she's like, Jess, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, you don't need to do that. And I'm like, I don't know, I'm not sure, I could still do it. And then after the first week, she did it. I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. Okay, here's some more, here's some more, here's some more. And so, but I had to like, how should I say this? Intellectually, I know and understand that there's value in me not doing every stupid little thing. But I didn't trust it until I experienced the value. And so You had to surrender. What's that? You had to surrender. Exactly. We just and and I want to go back to that point, right? Like, and and I wanna I'm gonna muddy the water a little bit because I think it's important. Um whether you're religious or not, whatever your faith is or whatever, but you're experiencing the extreme friction. The one number one thing, you know, a lot of folks talk about the 12 steps and how people go to the 12-step program to find God. And then from there, like, you know, there I think there's some truth there. For some people, it turns into them finding religion and there's different things. For me, the thing that I found out was that I'm not God. And every time I try to behave as if I am, everything is freaking hard. When I'm not in control, when I release control, when I surrender and share my gifts and talents in service to others, everything works out. Everything does out. Um, which is why I say or identify. As a selfish servant. Because sure, I do a lot of stuff in service to others, but you know why? Because of the joy, the contentment, the fulfillment that I've learned to experience from serving others. So it is, yeah, I'm totally a servant. And I'm doing it for selfish reasons. So it keeps it keeps the ball rolling for me.

SPEAKER_03 45:26

Yeah, I see where you're going with that. I get it. I believe we have a lot of power in what we say. Yes. And I don't see you as a selfish person. To me, that's a negative thing. Agree. I understand what you just explained. And so that's why I I addressed it in the beginning because I was just like, wow, like a servant is not a servant's heart, a servant leader is someone that has compassion for others and empathy for others. And that's a it takes a lot of time, energy, and effort to be in that space. And so it does benefit you because you're doing God's work, but it's hard to do. I always just say, I talk about choose your hard. My pastor did a thing on it one time.

SPEAKER_02 46:08

It doesn't matter. It's gonna be hard. Choose your hard. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 46:12

Choose your heart. It's hard not to work, it's hard to work. It's hard to make money, it's hard not to have money. One of them has a more benefits to them, but they're both hard.

SPEAKER_01 46:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:21

One you get stuck, one you move forward, but they're both hard. And one might be even harder than the other, and it's not even a work thing. Because I think the worst thing I could have done is quit last year. Yeah. Because I had a situation last year at one of the job sites. I had to go and pick up a case of our stuff because it wasn't being used. And they weren't paying, they didn't pay for it. And I was with the safety guy and he was really upset about it because like they have budgets and stuff like that, right? Right. And I said to him, and he's he's he's about to be, you can tell the the guys that get respect from the crews that he had really good relationships with them. And and he was just different. And I've and I've told him that the first moment I met him. I'm like, you're different, you're different. And we we just connected on a different level, right? And we've had a lot of conversations since then. But I said, I'm not taking this box because you care about them, and it's hot. Yep. I don't care about making money on this, I care about them out there. And that is in a season that I was in, we didn't have two cents, but I did what was right.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

And I said to myself, I I just knew I was like, God will honor this because it's the right thing to do. It's not the world, the world would say you're foolish. The world would say that's not business, yep, that's not how things operate. And you know, we have a great relationship to this day, and he's now with a different company, and he's bringing me into that. And God is honoring that I did the right thing because it bothers me. When I leave a place and peep and and leadership doesn't get it, and I and and all the guys, because when we when we show up, we give them shots, they taste horrible. They're only in two or three ounces, little Dixie cups. Sometimes they're like pink and blue and stuff. I'm like, come on, don't be a sissy, come get it. If you want a sticker, you're gonna have to try it, you know, to get a shot. I know you drink tequila. This isn't as bad as tequila. It tastes salty, you can do it. It's just salty. Don't be a baby. And like some of them will go like that. I'm like, you're still gonna taste it, it's gonna get you. Anyways, we have a lot of fun, but they come up to me and like you know how safety means like they they just they're they're off and they're just and then they disperse and they do their thing. Yep. They're I can't get them away. They're like coming up and they're talking to me, and they're like, I was so hungover, I feel so good. Can I get another shot? And it's like the same person was just fighting me, saying, Oh, it's it's it's salty, you know. Right. And it's not all sodium's the same. We we don't have to talk about that. But right, these are the things that so, and then when I get to the leadership and leadership's like, well, you know, we do this instead. And I'm like, wow, these guys aren't gonna get access to it. Yeah, it's not about the sale of that system that I provide. I grieve, and I that's what was what make me quit.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:09

That I can't that those guys that I just interacted with are not gonna get access to something. Yeah, I you have no much you have no idea how much I've given away to people like that because it changes the game because they can be the person that they're restored, they feel balanced. We have kidney disease in Texas alone. We were ranked number one in the world, in the c in the in the nation, not the world, sorry, in the nation. Wow. And everyone I talk to is like, well, you know, they're just not drinking enough water. And I'll say, no, that's the problem. They're actually pushing out the potassium that their body needs with the water. Yeah, they're they're probably drinking gallons of water, and and it's not fixing it, it's making it worse, it's fueling that problem. And we have countless stories about people with with the potassium that's in our stuff because it's not synthetic, it's derived. And it's made in the USA, it's not made, it's derived. Right. Nothing's synthetic in our stuff. That's why it works so fast because our bodies aren't synthetic and your kidneys need potassium to function. Yes. And when they're functioning, then your blood sugar works, and then when your blood sugar is balanced, you don't have heart disease. It's all connected.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 50:18

And they're not getting it from their diet, and then they're washing it out, and then we wonder why there's a literally a kid dialysis clinic on every corner. So I fight those battles, and you know what I mean by that.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

I do, I do. I I applaud you for like sticking through it, I applaud you for surrendering and doing the redirection, the repackaging, rebranding because it's important work and it's easier. Like I know, sister, it's easier to just not do it. And you can go do a million other things. There's no doubt in my mind. But it it what I'm picking up on is that you are compelled to have an impact on the industry and on the construction industry, and and and we need we need to need a bunch of other people. There's a lot of things, there's a lot of folks out there, and like you said, police. We go, we build, we install things, the industrial athletes out there that are building and maintaining our environment need access. 10 hours a day. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Need to be restored, and and you're out there doing that. So if somebody wanted like to connect with you, learn more about the restoration and the squirting, where where should they go, Miss Jennifer?

SPEAKER_03 51:34

I should have worn my squirting shirt for you. I thought about it. I was like, no, I'm gonna look pretty today because I it's just a t-shirt. Yeah, yeah. We have a scripture on our t-shirt, but we're squirters. Nice. Um, we're squirt squad. So jmr solutions. So it's jm-ar dot solutions on like Instagram. Um, and then we're jmrsolutions.net on the internet. So it's not.com because we weren't cool enough to get the calm. We had to go with the who else is gonna have JMR solutions? I'm like, really? There's a is a company in Houston, they're not even a company anymore.

SPEAKER_01 52:09

And I'm like, I didn't get the calm.

Promise, Family, And Culture Shift

SPEAKER_03 52:12

Yeah, I know, I know it. It's tough out there. And so, and then you know, I my Facebook, I I got rid of the Facebook page because I couldn't figure out how to work it. So I just connected it to my personal page because this is all I do, you know, and I don't have anything to hide. I just want to be able to get the message to people so that they don't have to suffer. Yeah. And that's that's the calling, and it's heavy. It's heavy, and that's why I'm talking to you because God brings people into your life that support you and to like you don't do, you can't do anything alone. Oh, you have to do it through people, and everything happens through relationships. Transactional is the world, relational is God, and that's our core values. I will never falter from that because if you don't have that as a base, everything's gonna crumble. Yep, yeah, yes, a hundred.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Oh my god, I'm gonna mess it up, yeah, yes, and that's the thing, we will get in our own way, like just all I gotta do. All the time is not get in my way, and things are gonna be good. Oh my goodness. Okay, are you ready for the grand slam question, Miss Jennifer?

SPEAKER_03 53:25

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

Okay, and I'm excited because I know you're a you're a woman of faith. You are compelled to take on a massive, massive undertaking. You've been called and you're not ignoring the call. I'm really excited about what your answer is gonna be. So here it is. What is the promise you are intended to be?

SPEAKER_03 53:51

The promise I'm intended to be. My I'm work I my best is when I'm encouraging others. And I struggle with discouragement because of that. When you struggle with this whatever your strength is, right? Use what you're hit with the most. So to speak strength and life and vitality into others. Does that answer the question?

SPEAKER_02 54:20

I think it does, but let me give you a little more context. I think it does. The the reason I asked the question that way is because I was in rehab the last time. I've been in rehab multiple times. This last time that I was there, I had uh one of the counselors tell me, Jesse, your problem isn't admitting, your problem is accepting. And I said, What are you talking about? Like he's like, Yeah, you get up in the meetings, you say, Hi, I'm Jesse, I'm an alcoholic, I'm an addict. That's admitting. Like, okay. He says, What you haven't accepted, it is if you continue to live life the way you're living it, you will never become the promise you're intended to be.

SPEAKER_03 55:07

And God's promises are yes and amen. And we get in the way of that all the time.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 55:14

I love it. Thank you for sharing that with me. Oh man, that's huge. You know, I think the world calls it having a purpose, but I really think it's promise is so much better. I love that, Jesse. Thank you for sharing that. When your identity is in Christ, there's nothing that anybody can say or do in this world or anything that can happen that can falter that. And so if you know who you are and you've accepted, that was so good. The promises of God. And there's 365 of them for a reason. Yeah. Oh man. So not purpose, but promise is to be the hands and feet of God and restore. He's the greatest restorer, so I can't do it on my own accord, but he be the vessel that he can use to do that. Because the family is, we talk about culture all the time at work. What happens at home carries into work. And if you have someone leaving every day depleted, and then we've got mental health issues, and we have awarenesses and all these things, and everybody's aware, but nobody's wanting to provide a solution because when it's provided, it's like, well, you know, that's not how we do things. You know, it's like this weird, it's just weird to me. Because minerals help you manage and and it's intentional that we have the foods that we have and that we grab the things that we do, and because it's easy, it's access, and you're just exhausted. So if I could get people to understand the movement is is not about a product, it's about people. Yeah. And restoring the home life because it's so important. My husband is my world. We're gonna be married 30 years next year. Congratulations. There's no way I could have done any of this without that man. And I surrendered career for my kids because they were the greatest gift that God ever gave me. And it was hard because I'm very driven. If you're in my presence for like an hour or two, I exhaust people because I'm just like living with that. That man should get a trophy for living with me. But I was like, okay, I've got my first kiddo, I was like, I got this baby. I went, my schedule went from like, you know, because I was in radio, and so I was doing all these promotions, I was working with the Dallas Cowboys, I was doing the all this stuff, and that was my life, right? Yeah, and then I'm like, I I don't want to, I I'm not going, nope, nobody can. This is the greatest gift. It changed my life forever.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:42

And I surrendered it. And then I was able to do training when they got a little bit older, and so I had a little side gig, but it never took from my family. And I prioritized that because I believe we honor God, then we honor our spouse, and then we honor our kids, our kids, and then everything else. And what and and it's not an easy choice because we didn't have the things that we we could have had if I was working. But man, my kids, I didn't miss a thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 58:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:11

And now, you know, now my son works for me. He was the tech guy that was trying to fix the the audio problems we were having. I get so excited when I think of that. And it's like it's my world. And he's actually getting to work with it with me. And I like, he's my world. My kids are my world. And so I know I went off on a tangent and you got to go, but it's like, I just want people to understand that when you restore someone and it restores the family, the whole culture shifts. And the companies we've worked with have seen it. And they say anecdotal. I'm like, no, man, yeah, it's not anecdotal.

SPEAKER_02 58:44

Yeah, that's weird.

Where To Connect And Final Takeaways

SPEAKER_03 58:45

If anybody's around me when I haven't eaten, my husband will don't ask mom anything. Like, don't you know it's gonna be no and it's gonna be bad. Because what do we do? We dump on our family, you know. Like I I like food. And if I and so if I'm hungry, I'm not gonna be a nice person. And if we can get someone that to be able to restore what the day depletes and then go home and manage the family better, you're gonna, it's gonna, it's a game changer because you dump on the closest people to you. Yep. I don't know how many times I've dumped on my husband. And my husband never did that. He never brought the job home with him because he was able to manage it. He's not perfect, but he was able to manage it because I knew how to fuel him for that environment. And that's it's so simple, but it's been such a uh it's been such a ride. And it's still going, buddy. It's still going. I love you too. I love your spirit, and thank you so much. You have been such a blessing, such a joy. I love your smile, and I'm grateful to be aligned with someone like yourself that knows the battle, has persevered through it, chose your hard, and is benefiting by helping others do the same because that's our promise, that's our purpose, that's all the things, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Yes, yes. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 59:59

So rewarding, so rewarding.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

It's just the beginning. I know we're gonna have more conversations in the future, some live interactions and stuff. So you're not getting rid of me. Yeah, nice. So, did you have fun?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

I did, of course I did. What this thing didn't stop.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

Yeah, plenty of energy. I think, like just to remind everybody that's still listening, JMR Solutions is here to restore the whole person, the industrial athletes out there, and the connection, the through line is not just replenishing the depletion, it's also sending the whole person home to be a better person, a better version of themselves for everybody in their world. And and I'm grateful for the work that you're doing, Miss Jennifer, and we'll figure out how to keep that dream alive.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:52

We'll do something together. We need to get on a stage together. People would love it. Oh, yeah.

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